Anna Wheeler's mother-who was she?

[hermin1]

::)Fellow researchers:
I have a real doozie that I need your input and help with:

Forrest T. Wheeler born in New Hampshire, came to White Swan, Charles Mix ,South Dakota @1863, and started a roadhouse, or stage way-station.

He married a Yankton Sioux woman, whose name I finally found after several searches: Kahbokuwin.

I believe they may have married by IC, because Anna Wheeler's descendants allege that they have been unable to find any marriage record.

Forrest and kahbokuwin had at least 2 children: Frank,born @ 1865, and Anna born @1867-1868. But now according to her alleged descendants, they had another son who died in infancy.

Kahbokuwin died sometime after Anna was born, but before the 1880 US Census was done for E.D. 92,Charles Mix,Dakota Terrritory.

I need to know the English Translation for her Indian name, and if possible, and if she was given an English Name(given name and Surname). According to the mormon records, she was born @1831 in Dakota Territory.
I appreciate your help and input very much.

[siouxchic]

from what i know about anne wheeler is her father's name is foster wheeler and her mother is supposed to be a julia wabashaw. that is why i was asking which julia on the 86 and 89 census was a wabashaw. some were claiming it was julia smith and some were claiming it was julia williams. this is the first i heard about her mother being yankton sioux. the family i know have a baptismal certificate with the mother as julia wabashaw or wabasha. but where did you get this information from hermin? i would just like to know if there is documentation on anna wheeler's real mother because it is a mystery to me.

[hermin1]

siouxchic: That baptismal certificate may not be legitimate.One of the women who contacted me alleges that she is one of her descendant, told me that they got this baptismal certificate copy from the Yankton Tribal office.
I did talk to oneof anna's kin today,afterI found the name of annie's mother, and she said that Anna Wheeler's probate papers are at the Winnebago office.
She also said they took a photo of a tombstone in a cemetery , that has the names of Forrest wheeler, his wife as Julia Wabashaw and the name of an infant son that they also had that died. I asled to see a copyof the photo, and as yet they have not responded.
Anna's kin also claims that Frank Wheeler is Forrest's son by his previous marriage.,BUT he was born @1865, 2 years after Foster had moved to White Swan, according to familysearch(moormon web site).Also if he were non-Indian, he would not have be enrolled as a half blood on the 1902 santee Census.
I found out the mother's name by searching for Frank Wheeler at www.familysearch .com and ancestry.com. I saw a census showing him living at Santee, so I went back and checked the Santee Censuses at Native Family Resource Center and bingo,there he was on the 1902 Santee Census, with his daughter, and son. His parents were listed as Forrest Wheeler and Kahbokuwin. His wife and he were either divorced or she may have died. He had to have had some documentation on his parents and himself to be accepted into the Santee Siouxs.

In either case.Kahbokuwin was listed as dead in the 1902 Census. Since she died before the 1880 Census was done,I doubt that I will be able to find out more about her and any other members of her family. that is why I am hoping someone has some information on her. with an engish translation of her name, I would hopfully have better luck.
I am perplexed as well as frustrated, because her kin keep insisting that Anna's mother was Julia Wabasha or Julia Smith or even Julia Williams on the Mdewakanton Censuses, but the Indian names I found for them do not even come close to Kahbokuwin, and the only documentation the kin have even given me is that phony baptismal certificate, an article on forrest Wheeler, and copies some pages from the Birch Cooley Censuses for 1885,1886,1887.

[siouxchic]

what information did they get from the birch cooley censuses?

[hermin1]

Just the pages that had Joseph Wabashaw and his wife Isabella , John Smith and wife Julia Smith, and Thomas Williams and Julia Williams on them.
Anna's kin think that Julia was the daughter of Joseph Wabashaw, which is impossible. he would have been 9 yrs old when he fathered the Julia Wabashaw whom they think is anna's mother. the kin further think that anna's mother left Forrest Wheeler and returned to Minn. and married either Thomas Williams, or "Indian John" Smith(the one who lived to be 120 or so). And as I told them, theyneed documentationto prove tese guesses of theirs.

[linda]

I seen on the 1887 Santee Census that Anna Wheeler, age 21 was living with her grandmother Louisa Wakuta age 68.
Does Louisa have a daughter named Julia?

Hope this helps. Linda

[hermin1]

Linda: I saw that entry too, but I have been unable to find anything at allon Louisa, at ancestry or any of the other web sites I haunt.
the records I found on anna after she changed her name to Cournoyer aren't consistent on where she was born, some say Nebraska, other records on her say S.dakota.but they are consistent in that her father is listed as born in NH, mother born MN.
I can not find any batptismal record on her at anyof the church records on line, and anyof the Santee registers, just that mention that you and I saw. There is a questiion mark re. her religious status in that entry,did yousee that?

[linda]

I am going to MN and I will look for this information on Anna Wheeler's Mother along with some information on Martha Saul and William Jones.

[hermin1]

Linda: thanks so much. I appreciate any information you find on he. I pray that your search is fruitful.

[hermin1]

linda:
Here is what I have in my files:
Willie Jones Age 25 Full Blood
Parents: Samuel Jones #453 on 1902 reg. Santee Ind. Fam.
Cornelia Jones-dead
Spouse: Lizzie Lucas Age 17/18(hard to make out) Full Blood
Parents: Samuel Lucas #534 on 1902 Reg. Santee Ind. Fam.
Kate Wapaha-deceased
Willlie and Lizzie were wed July 1,1900 At Santee,Ne
_________________________________________________
William Jones , b. 1880 Santee,NE, Baptized April 29,1882 Holy Faith,Santee,NE
Parents: Samuel Jones (s/o Nahbeza) born apr. 1854 Redwood Falls, Minn. died 4 Apr. 1921
Cordelia Jones
Spouse: Rebecca white
Parents: Alexander White
Elizabeth white
_______________________________________________-
I have 2 Samuel Joneses:
#! Samuel Jones aka Wakinyan Age 44(can't make it out) full Blood
parents: Taniya -dead. nahbegawin-dead
spouse 1: Cornelia Okawingewin Age 30(1884 and 1887 Santee Censuses)
children: willie
Isabella
Archie
Charles
Abed
spouse 2:Susan Ptegomani Jones aka Zimmerman Age 50
Parents:Tawacinhu-dead
Makacakinyewin(sp)-dead
______________________________________
Samuel Jones 1/2 blood
Parents: james Christian Jones(non-indian)
Mary Jones* 4/4 Mdewakanton Sioux
spouse: Agnes V. Eastman
parents: David Eastman
Lizzie Takapawin
*Mary's Indian Name was Payah(Bitter tasting)
she was a daughter of Old Betsey famous Dakota woman
Her first spouse was Many Hails, a chief soldier for Little Crow
After the uprising he came back from Canada to Faribault where Mary and and their children were, and said goodbye then he left for Canada. He was living at Prince Albert,in 1901.
she then married James Christian Jones and had at least 2 sons, of which one was Samuel.
I believe that he and his brother setted at Flandreau,SD
children:Gertrude
Samuel(Jr.)
florence( married a Williams )
Violet pearl
___________________________-
William Jones
born : 1880 Santee Nebraska
Baptized April 20, 1882 Holy Faith,Santee,NE
Parents:Samuel Jones,s/o Nahbeza born: 1854, Redwood Falls,MN:died 4 Apr. 1921



Kate Lucas -dead

[sndn77]

Hey Sioux chik. The baptismal is not a phony. The baptismal is in the books at St. Pauls Church in Marty, SD. You did not get your information first hand because we got the information from Sister Merriam herself. If you have any doubts feel free to get ahold of her at St. Pauls Church in Marty, SD.

[siouxchic]

sndn 77 i'm not the one who said it was a phony. maybe you should reread the posts before you start pointing fingers.

[hermin1]

sndn: I was told it was not legit. If it was actual, why did her descendents who came to me early this year,tell me that they checked the church records at Marty and were told there are norecod of her parents' marriage and of being baptized there? Also explain why there was a question mark next to her name in regard to her baptismal status in t Santee Register mentioned above?
also I would like to see this photo of the tombstone that Lorett a mentioned .

Also the Julia Wiliams does not appear to be the mother of Anna Webster. I found, in my search.

I was at my wiits end when I did my posting above on Anna Webster. I want to help the ladies that came to me for help, and I have searched as much as I can to find out who her mother uis, and all I can come up with is that llisting for Frank Wheeler in the 1902 Santee Census and the names listed for Oneof the ladies claims that Frank was the son of Forest's first marriage, but that don't jive with the Santee Census.for him.
The copy of the baaptismal record that the ladies gave me had the FAX number for the yankton Tribal Office, no tthe church itself. that may be why Kaardal and Buttes would not ac ept it.
is parents.

[sierrapeterson]

Hello have we made anymore traction in our search efforts? Would like to know more about my family lineage thank you you can reach me at [e-mail]